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Who: Everyone
When: Day 87, late morning
Where: Everywhere
What: Bonding~

[Oh man, someone's being a dick and handcuffing people together, suddenly you find yourself chained to a random bystander. The cuffs have a note attached:

"To unlock, do one of the following:
1) Complete any task together (bake a cake, move a bookshelf, develop a synchronised swimming routine, etc.)
2) Reveal an insecurity
3) Discover a common bond between the two of you
4) Play four founds of truth or dare each.
5) Make out. For about five minutes. Or longer, if you like.

Good luck figuring out which is your key."]

((No matter how hard you budge, the handcuffs won't come off. It's possible to get stuck in these handcuffs several times throughout the day, even if you try to hide somewhere secluded they will find you. If there's something you really want to do but your character ICly wouldn't feel free to have that as your get-out clause, be as free-form as you want.))

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--and then the war came, Irisviel became part of the Grail, and for destroying the Grail and betraying the Einzberns, I was denied access to my daughter and never...

[That kind of story is exactly why Yukari thinks you're interesting. And maybe why she doesn't understand you.]

And then you came here, and were reunited with the woman you loved, and your son as well.

It goes back to that question: should a man who's thrown away such things have them back so easily? Would he make the same choice?

My record isn't the most reassuring...

That's for you to decide, isn't it?

Truth.

... what made you decide to create instead of destroy?

It was just a whim at first. Just from a logical point of view, once you destroy a thing, it's hard to un-destroy it, but it's easy to wait to destroy it and change your mind later. Like with that man - I let him do what he wanted and killed him when he was done. If I had killed him first, I wouldn't have learned anything.

I probably would have gotten bored of it after a while, but at some point... I couldn't say when, exactly, but probably around 10,000 BCE, just thinking about how things were. Anyway, at some point it occurred to me that people were "real."

It's difficult to explain, but up until that point, I suppose it hadn't really occurred to me that people were anything but mental constructs. Sort of like characters in a book. Outside of the narrative, they don't really exist as people. It didn't seem to me that people even existed when I wasn't looking at them, or that they had minds that were private to them only, or anything like that. When I wanted them to go away, they would go away, and when I wanted them to die, they would die, so I thought they were like idle thoughts, to be dismissed. I couldn't tell the difference at all between visions I saw in dreams and the people I saw in reality.

I was happy to know that because it had been boring to be alone, but it was also sort of frustrating, since I couldn't just be inside everyone's head and know everything about them. I got so caught up trying to understand things that I suppose I became attached. It would be too sad to end the game at such a point, I think.

And yet you find concepts such as "treat others as you would want to be treated" to be completely alien to you.

... As I want to be treated?

That's not true. I want people to be interesting, and I think I am an interesting person myself.

No, I mean...

Back with the two men. The second man was not someone who lived by that sort of rule. He knew his actions would hurt a normal girl, but he did so regardless. The second man, however, saw a girl that if she had been a normal girl, may have been severely hurt and afraid, and so he cared for her.

Perhaps it's difficult to understand if you still have trouble with the idea of people as "real", or understand "pain" differently. Some humans have difficulty with the concepts as well--such as Kotomine Kirei.

I'm not a normal girl. Even if I understand that people are real, and that they feel pain, it isn't possible to calculate with certainty what will hurt them. Obviously certain general principles can be applied - humans fear death and injury, for the most part, so that will result in suffering. Similarly, humans are social animals that derive psychological security from their concept of their worth within their society. So if you say to a human, "everyone hates you," usually that sort of thing is unpleasant for them.

But even things like that aren't even close to guaranteed to cause harm, and there are other things, less obvious things, that do cause harm. That sort of thinking might come naturally to you, but it isn't as if I have some intuitive concept of what hurts humans.

Anyway, I don't think suffering is pleasant, even if it's someone else's suffering. Actually, I find that sort of thing really bothersome, usually. I suppose I don't care if I don't like the person who is suffering, but there are plenty of people I do like, and it's irritating for them to be unhappy.

You're not normal, but your conflict with understanding other people is the same as any other. Perhaps more troubling since you can see all possibilities and they can only see a limited few or none at all.

It's actually a bit backwards--you would think being able to see possibilities would lend some foresight in how to deal with or handle people.

... truth.

[Remember that one time when you guys were talking sci-fi conspiracy stuff and yukari zoned out really hard

That is pretty much what happens when she tries to apply the full force of her brain power to irrational human bullshit.]

When you have another kid, and it grows up enough to not be boring anymore, can I have it for a bit, as long as I promise to give it back?

... why do you want a child? And how old is "when it stops being boring"?

Either way, I can't agree to something like that. It's assuming I'll even have children in the future and that Iri would agree to it.

[and why would you want to take my child away from me?]

You know, when they stop being stupid and can feed themselves.

It would be convenient to have. I don't really care if it's yours, but a child of a magus and a homunculus would probably be suitable, and anyway you have a decently heroic track record.

Well, anyway. I can't decide if I prefer truth or dare, so you pick.

If that means when they're an adult, then it would be their decision, wouldn't it?

And no, you pick. That's how the game goes.

Don't be absurd. Even little humans can feed themselves. I've seen them do it. And truth again.

Hypothetically, if I ever have another child and if I were to ever agree to something like that, I wouldn't let you take them when they are still a child unless there were dire circumstances--that much is certain.

Are you bored?

It isn't half so useful if they're already grown. But whatever. Well discuss it later, shall we?

Sometimes, briefly, I do grow bored.. But no, not overall.

Perhaps.

... last one.

Dare.

Ooooooooh.

[oh no. this great power of being enabled to get him to do anything within the boundaries of your first dare. what do?

just drinking. nonchalant. seemingly]

[ gosh.

Have to pick something which is good awkward harassment, but not good enough that you can call her out for not behaving. Tough, but yukari is good at awkward.]

My feet hurt. I want a foot massage.

[. . .

s-straightest of faces. and gesturing for her to take off her shoes.]

[yukari's attempts at straight face are failing pretty miserably

can just toe them off, since they are ones she got from selyir instead of her usual knee-high death boots, luckily

sitting on a nearby ledge so you can get to it!!!!]

[well, sitting next to and pulling her feet into his lap so he can work at them easier]

I half-expected you to bend the rules on "behaving".